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Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Now.. Villa (A) CORNER TURNED BITCHES
« on: Tue 15 Dec 09 22:28 GMT »

Wigan at home tomorrow to start...

Will it be 3 points?
1?
Zero?

Will Aquisanta start? Xmasllani

Will Kuyt be dropped? roll eyes

And with Pompey away on Saturday and Wolves at home on Boxing Day, will anything but 9 points be enough to save his job?

Rafa

(not happy with no Xmas rafa tbf)

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #1 on: Tue 15 Dec 09 22:40 GMT »

Masch is a doubt isn't he? I can see him being left out. He'll be more useful away to Pompey on Saturday I'd imagine.

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #2 on: Tue 15 Dec 09 22:51 GMT »

--------------Reina-----------

Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio

Benayoun, Gerrard, Aquilani, Riera

---------Torres, Pacheco--------

Is really what I'd like to see. We should be fucking teams like Wigan up.

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #3 on: Tue 15 Dec 09 23:06 GMT »

Is riera fit again? I'd like to see Aqualini start at least 2 of tthe 3 just to get people to SHUT UP!!!!

it will be a shit game, we will probably scrape a result, turn anothe corner and rafa will keep his job sigh voronin again...

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #4 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 01:54 GMT »

Even though I know he will, I really, really don't want to see Dirk starting for us tomorrow. sad

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #5 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 09:58 GMT »

I'd rather see Dirk than 'Captain Fantasically Petulant' atm. Gerrard's attitude is beginning to wind me up, even though Dirk needs a rest at least he'll always position himself well for a bit toe poking action.

Lucas & Aqui should start in the middle imo.

I just want to look forward to a game again confused santa

Santa Rafa is required tbf..... Fabian? Xmasllani

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #6 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 10:19 GMT »

I'd rather see Gerrard actually creating a chance or two rather than Dirk miscontrolling it or scuffing another shot sulking santa

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« Reply #7 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 10:44 GMT »

I'd rather see Gerrard in MF and a centre forward or second striker supporting Torres. If he's going to sulk he can do it further back. At least when he's there, Carra's more likely to pass to him and we'll see Hollywood balls instead of hoofs (there's a difference!) smug santa

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #8 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 10:46 GMT »

Got a ticket for tonight dirk

I'm going to watch us get bummed by Hugo Roda.. Rode.. I mean Figue..figa.. Paul Scharner aren't I? sad

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #9 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 11:48 GMT »

I dont understand why everyone seems to think Dirks tired, hes a fucking machine, hes still running around for 90 mins every week or twice a week. Hes a Lampard type that can play 65 games a season Nodding

On Aquilani : I was proper desperate to see him and couldnt work out why he wasnt being given even 20 mins a game after his promising cameo Vs Arsenal in the CC. But then he played against Fiorentina and Arsenal and looked well off the pace so I dont know why the calls for him to start have intensified so much tbh...I wont be bothered if hes on the bench again.

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #10 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 12:50 GMT »

He has been our excuse up til now, oh we aren't winning cos Aqui isnt back yet.

Dont tell anyone!!

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« Reply #11 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 12:51 GMT »

Just remembered its Shankly night at anfield, ex players, mosaic etc poundit

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #12 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 12:56 GMT »

If we don't play the cross eyed fucker he'll never get up to speed. An ideal game tonight imo, he won't play of course so my arguement is pointless.

Could be difficult to get a stream tonight sulking santa

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« Reply #13 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 13:07 GMT »

i'm not looking forwad to finding a stream either, hopefully my mate will respond about going the pub.

we played wigan around this time last year as well didn't we, but away. I had to watch it in the pen and wig lol

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« Reply #14 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 13:30 GMT »

i'll be out so you'll have tofind your own streams as well sad

fwiw i think it'll be the same team as against arsenal... god knows they owe the fans a bit of belief and determination.

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Re: Rafa: Ten days to save his ass? Pt. 1: Wigan (h)
« Reply #15 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 13:43 GMT »

FFS WEBB LETTING THE FUCKING SIDE DOWN AT THE MOST VITAL TIME FFS waving santa

There's normally loads of liverpool ones about so I think we'll all be alright if theres a few of us looking

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FFS WEBB LETTING THE FUCKING SIDE DOWN AT THE MOST VITAL TIME FFS waving santa

There's normally loads of liverpool ones about so I think we'll all be alright if theres a few of us looking

No

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« Reply #17 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 14:00 GMT »

I'm out for a chinese banquet anyway, so I won't see anything.

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I'm out for a chinese banquet anyway, so I won't see anything.

*insert clever wordplay about BS not being able to see his penis anyway*

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Quote from: shugdaddy on Wed 16 Dec 09 14:15 GMT

Quote from: Bacon Sarnie on Wed 16 Dec 09 14:00 GMT

I'm out for a chinese banquet anyway, so I won't see anything.

*insert clever wordplay about BS not being able to see his penis anyway*

Look, you know I'm a seriously fat bastard... It's been the case for years that I can only see the last 8 inches.

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« Reply #20 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 14:20 GMT »

Stream links done already. I'm that good.

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Quote from: Bacon Sarnie on Wed 16 Dec 09 14:17 GMT

Quote from: shugdaddy on Wed 16 Dec 09 14:15 GMT

Quote from: Bacon Sarnie on Wed 16 Dec 09 14:00 GMT

I'm out for a chinese banquet anyway, so I won't see anything.

*insert clever wordplay about BS not being able to see his penis anyway*

Look, you know I'm a seriously fat bastard... It's been the case for years that I can only see the last 8 inches.

yeah the l;ast 8 inches of your jumbo sized 10m plate!!!!!! YES! *tiger tim fistpump*

tempted to just listen to it on the radio tonight, but then i fear we might actually y'know play half decent and i don't what to miss that, who knows when the next time it happens will be santa lol

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« Reply #22 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 14:58 GMT »

we've played "well" twice this season I think wut?

we really are due a STONKER of a performance at some point

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we've played "well" twice this season I think wut?

Are you counting full games or half games? First half against Arsenal was good.

I'm a bit meh about tonight, I'm afraid to get my hopes up in case they sign Boumsong or someboby else really shit using a secret transfer window loophole. Crap players are pretty much nailed on to score against us.

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« Reply #24 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 15:34 GMT »

whole games. picking and choosing halves and moments would be a bit degrading for us.

im actually really looking forward to tonight, we simply cant go on being rubbish the CORNER TURN could happen any game and hopefully its tonight.

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we've played "well" twice this season I think wut?

Are you counting full games or half games? First half against Arsenal was good.

I'm a bit meh about tonight, I'm afraid to get my hopes up in case they sign Boumsong or someboby else really shit using a secret transfer window loophole. Crap players are pretty much nailed on to score against us.

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whole games. picking and choosing halves and moments would be a bit degrading for us.

Yeah, it is. We've stooped that low!

Honestly it's a confidence thing. You got the feeling that the OG the other day was like sticking a pin into a beachball, the whole team just said "Not again!" and just stopped playing. I'm hoping for that "corner turn" as much as the next guy but I'm afraid of the train wrecks we have to endure before it happens.

Don't forget that after we turn that corner, we have to turn the next one right away or we're back to where we were. The importance of 3 decent performances, 3 wins and a huge dollop of self belief cannot be underestimated. We go to Villa* with that and an eye on playing well and winning, then we're going to be all right.

*Just read back the Villa game at home. Atkinson & bad fucking luck did for us that day. Own goal, another from a corner that wasn't a corner, no protection for Torres despite the Villa back 4 going through the back of him 4 times in the game, hit the post, Friedel MOTM, Gerrard losing the head for a penno when we're already 1-2 down. 24 shots, 11 on target, 68% possession. What a total cock-up of a game that was!

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Quote from: Bacon Sarnie on Wed 16 Dec 09 14:00 GMT

I'm out for a chinese banquet anyway, so I won't see anything.

*Inserts clever joke about slanty-eyes Chinese not being able to see anything* smug

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« Reply #28 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 17:37 GMT »

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Quote from: Bacon Sarnie on Wed 16 Dec 09 14:00 GMT

I'm out for a chinese banquet anyway, so I won't see anything.

*Inserts clever joke about slanty-eyes Chinese not being able to see anything* smug

I can guarantee that joke is not going to be clever sigh voronin again...

As for the Villa game that was a true farce, not that we haven't had several of them.

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At least you didnt get bullied on the way home by villa fans sulking santa

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At least you didnt get bullied on the way home by villa fans sulking santa

I went to the local for the Chelsea game and got slagged off by the local pastor/minister when we totally failed. I think I win that one.

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« Reply #31 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 17:41 GMT »

zi and DDA you losers santa lol

Mocked by Brummies and priests santa lol

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« Reply #32 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 17:45 GMT »

yeah, not one of my better days.

Onwards: Team News!

Part 1 from Rafa:

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'Riera , Kelly and Nabil El Zhar are still injured. The rest of the players are okay. We will have to check with Mascherano and Johnson in the morning just to be sure.'

Part 2 from an ITK:

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Kuyt and torres up front. Gerrard will play in centre mid, Johnson 100% out and Degen not in squad at all so looks like Derby may be starting. Sounds like aquilani will be on the bench and either masch or lucas next to gerrard

Whispers of this:

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Reina
Darby Carra Agger Insua
Yossi Gerrard Lucas Aurelio
Kuyt Torres

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« Reply #33 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 17:52 GMT »

whos that leave to play on the wings then, Benny & Aurelio?

I do think Kuyt + Torres could be good though. Maybe also help Torres not to take such a battering every game if Kuyts up there.

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Darby

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« Reply #35 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 20:22 GMT »

Liverpool v Wigan line-ups:

Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Skrtel, Agger, Insua, Benayoun, Mascherano, Gerrard, Aurelio, Kuyt, Ngog.
Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Torres, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Darby, Dossena.

Wigan: Kirkland, Melchiot, Boyce, Bramble, Figueroa, Scharner, Gomez, Diame, Thomas, N'Zogbia, Rodallega.
Subs: Kingson, Amaya, Cho, Scotland, Koumas, Sinclair, De Ridder.

Referee: Phil Dowd (Staffordshire)

Torres on the bench confused

Carra (so actually Skrtel...) RB sad

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« Reply #36 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 20:22 GMT »

Jose Reina

Jamie Carragher, Martin Skrtel, Daniel Agger, Emiliano Insua

Yossi Benayoun, Javier Mascherano, Steven Gerrard, Fabio Aurelio

Dirk Kuyt, David Ngog

Subs: Cav, Aqua, Lucas, Soto, Nando, Doss, Darby

We're going to lose/draw aren't we sad

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« Reply #37 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 20:22 GMT »

No Torres

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« Reply #38 on: Wed 16 Dec 09 20:28 GMT »

i still think we'll win but either way its not gonna be pretty is it

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Quote from: Fabian on Wed 16 Dec 09 20:22 GMT

Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Skrtel, Agger, Insua, Benayoun, Mascherano, Gerrard, Aurelio, Kuyt, Ngog.
Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Torres, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Darby, Dossena.

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