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FM2011 - First Look
« on: Wed 11 Aug 10 17:39 GMT »
Football Manager 2011 announcement


http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/221267-Football-Manager-2011-official-announcement?p=5742027#post5742027
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #1 on: Wed 11 Aug 10 18:11 GMT »
better media and dynamic league reputation  Thumbs Up

agents  uhoh more training and pre-match stuff  sigh voronin again...
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #2 on: Wed 11 Aug 10 18:18 GMT »
the formation training looks ok and makes sense

i remember on ultimate soccer manager 98 the training was a lot better in terms of practising in game moves and set pieces etc. if you can do some of that it will be good

but the super specific attribute training bit  uhoh
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #3 on: Wed 11 Aug 10 18:41 GMT »
Sounds good tbf. If they make the training more user-friendly/transparent like they did with the tactics for FM10 then it'll be class.
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #4 on: Wed 11 Aug 10 18:51 GMT »
I find it much harder to get into single player games now, cos the last couple I have had some network games on the go

network >> single player


the pre match training look good, the training just looks daunting Scared
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #5 on: Wed 11 Aug 10 22:36 GMT »
not been able to play these games for a while now

since they became far too in depth, i just want to pick my team and play  Shake Fist
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #6 on: Wed 11 Aug 10 23:07 GMT »
CM3/4 was the last computer game I actually bought. Truefact.

I'm assuming that FM11 is not at the same "just jump in, fiddle with transfers and get on with matches" level that CM3/4 was?

also, presumably with pretty much every club in the world apart from Man City being broke, the transfer market is a lot less fun.
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #7 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 00:04 GMT »
As soon as you know the 6 players to buy for 250k, money kinda becomes irrelevant.

It isnt that they put so much extra detail in (although I know alot of people dont like and that is fair enough) it's that too much of it either is never explained properly or it makes no sense. Or both in the case of team talks. The tactics for FM09 for example made no sense except in the heads of the devs at SI (they did do a good job at rectifying it for FM10).

Or a plain waste of time. The press conferences, I really tried hard to like them really I did but they are just an impossibly banal waste of time. I dont think Ive ever seen one make the slightest bit of difference.

They'd benefit from a sort of 'arcade' mode where alot of the extra bits were stripped out, but I guess it would just be too difficult to do.
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #8 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 08:45 GMT »
I gave up on FM 2006 cause I keep getting sacked.

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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #9 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 09:21 GMT »
I won't be able to play this  sad

I need a new computer but it ain't happening anytime soon. Therefore I'm looking forward to FM13.
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #10 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 09:23 GMT »
Quote from: Theo Cupier on Wed 11 Aug 10 23:07 GMT
CM3/4 was the last computer game I actually bought. Truefact.

I'm assuming that FM11 is not at the same "just jump in, fiddle with transfers and get on with matches" level that CM3/4 was?

also, presumably with pretty much every club in the world apart from Man City being broke, the transfer market is a lot less fun.
There's a lot more variables to fiddle with these days, but tbh they've done a pretty good job of making the tactics at least fairly easy to understand. You can just pick player roles from a drop down list (ball-winning midfidlers, winger, advanced forward, etc) so you don't need to fiddle with sliders all day.

So really, you can just do transfers and get on with matches. You might not be majorly successful but you can do it.
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #11 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 09:32 GMT »
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(ball-winning midfidlers, winger, advanced forward, etc)

I'd love to see someone datamine forums, fansites, blogs etc and see if there is any correlation between FM using terms like that in the game and an increase in people using them in general parlance.
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #12 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 09:35 GMT »
Quote from: statikpunk on Thu 12 Aug 10 09:21 GMT
I won't be able to play this  sad

I need a new computer but it ain't happening anytime soon. Therefore I'm looking forward to FM13.

if you can run 10 you can run 11.  or so they say.



press conferences  Spaz Face  the assistant managers opinion on players/best team  Spaz Face
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #13 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 10:19 GMT »
thats the most annoying thing about press conferences, let your assistant do them and he will upset everyone

also forget to criticise indiscipline and everyone will start moaning and wont be happy again for months on end



i dont mind the idea of them but the execution is POOR  Thumbs Down
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #14 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 10:33 GMT »
I guess they have to strike a balance between scouts/coaches being infallible and not being too stupid as to be irrelevant.

I find the refs don't make enough mistakes, whenever you get a news item saying 'blah blah looked offside for that goal' 99/100 it comes back it was the correct decision.

Network games Thumbs Up BANTER takes care of the niggles plus keeps you a bit more honest; you cant just buy the same players you always do.
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« Reply #15 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 11:16 GMT »
Quote from: ADD on Thu 12 Aug 10 10:19 GMT
thats the most annoying thing about press conferences, let your assistant do them and he will upset everyone

also forget to criticise indiscipline and everyone will start moaning and wont be happy again for months on end



i dont mind the idea of them but the execution is POOR  Thumbs Down

I haven't done a single press coference in 6 years as Genoa and haven't had any problems.  smug
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #16 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 11:45 GMT »
sulk

On my Liv goal Sammy Lee was upsetting people left right and centre sigh voronin again...
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« Reply #17 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 12:00 GMT »
I do the new job one and occasionally for big signings. assistant doesn't seem to do much damage but who cares, fuk da prez.


i understand they don't want the assistants to be infallible rob but when you look at the team report and he is slagging off players who are blatently good it is annoying.
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« Reply #18 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 12:08 GMT »
Quote from: shugdaddy on Thu 12 Aug 10 12:00 GMT
I do the new job one and occasionally for big signings. assistant doesn't seem to do much damage but who cares, fuk da prez.


i understand they don't want the assistants to be infallible rob but when you look at the team report and he is slagging off players who are blatently good it is annoying.

Yeah I know what you mean, sometimes it is just sigh voronin again... and they do it with transfers as well 'blah blah shouldn't be on the transfer list he still has something to offer the club' blah blah blah SHUT UP.

I find them particularly bad when it comes to youth players. As Plymouth on 4 player network game it was running joke how many '5 star sign at any cost' strikers I had who scored less than 10 goals between them angry angry

Prob just my formation tbf
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« Reply #19 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 12:20 GMT »
Quote from: glosrob on Thu 12 Aug 10 11:45 GMT
sulk

On my Liv goal Sammy Lee was upsetting people left right and centre sigh voronin again...


this  sigh voronin again...

ive never really let the assistant take control since

i find morale is ridiculously important in terms of results toom, if everybodies happy win win win
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« Reply #20 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 22:06 GMT »
Quote from: shugdaddy on Thu 12 Aug 10 09:35 GMT


press conferences  Spaz Face  the assistant managers opinion on players/best team  Spaz Face

That side of FM got too much for me at the stage where you had to decide whether to appeal a red card decision. The complete lottery about whether it would succeed or end up with a longer ban was too irritating. The press conferences thing and half time team talks were just hellish in FM8 and, by gum, those assistant manager team picks :biggestfacepalmknowntoman:
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« Reply #21 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 22:23 GMT »
Do you want to criticise the ref?
Yes - nothing good can possibly happen
No - nothing happens

GREAT FEATURE
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« Reply #22 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 22:26 GMT »

'hmmmmm managers often criticise referees after controversial decisions, we should put an option in the game that allows you to do that'

'yeah, and how about you fall out with the board and players plus get a fine 99% of the time you do it?'

 uhoh


theo- it allows you to replay the incident on th screen where you decide to appeal or not
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« Reply #23 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 22:37 GMT »
general fm question :

i took years out from 01/02 to 09 so havent been doing team talks that long, i generally go for 'fans' 'you can win' or 'expect a win'...should i be varying it more

always think the old 'relax' option seems a bit dodgy  wut?
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« Reply #24 on: Thu 12 Aug 10 22:40 GMT »
i go with - you can win and do it with the fans  pre-game usually.

then - don't let the performance drop, we can win, and where's the passion lads.


did well or sympathise after nearly match.


fix shaking it up.


also don't use 2d or 3d views.  I'm a firm believe in the text.
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« Reply #25 on: Fri 13 Aug 10 06:07 GMT »
If I am at all an underdog go for 'nothing to lose so go out and enjoy the match'
Otherwise usually 'you can do it' or 'for the fans' if against a rival team
Then half time usually either 'where's the passion lads' or 'dont let performance drop'
End of game sympathise or one of the happy ones if we win

Always try to err on side of being positive I find, otherwise the players just moan at you

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« Reply #26 on: Fri 13 Aug 10 19:29 GMT »
It looks good, I'm just worried it won't work on my laptop, it definitely will not work on the PC.
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« Reply #27 on: Tue 07 Sep 10 18:31 GMT »
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=230554&id=262490537615

Screenshots oooooo Surprised
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« Reply #28 on: Tue 07 Sep 10 18:55 GMT »
Is that first screenshot some sort of pitch degradation simulator?
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« Reply #29 on: Tue 07 Sep 10 19:50 GMT »
Wembley?
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« Reply #30 on: Tue 07 Sep 10 23:07 GMT »
my mates name is on one of those screenshots  smug

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« Reply #31 on: Thu 09 Sep 10 11:48 GMT »
Looks like you can tell your what players what to do a free kicks/corners, have moves set up and everything  bewm

Mmm more fiddly stuff  lol
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« Reply #32 on: Wed 20 Oct 10 20:09 GMT »
Demo out tomoz on Steam I think aaaaa yooooooooooo
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« Reply #33 on: Wed 20 Oct 10 21:43 GMT »
It is. I've got Fallout and Vanquish getting delivered tomorrow though. I haven't timed this very well  sigh voronin again...
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« Reply #34 on: Wed 20 Oct 10 21:50 GMT »
PeterFear'd it sigh voronin again...
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Re: FM2011 - First Look
« Reply #35 on: Mon 25 Oct 10 06:47 GMT »
Anyone else played the demo?

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3d match engine is much much better
Including agents is much better
Can design own set pieces
Individual training makes more sense I think
Match preparation

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Private chats are repetitive already. Joined Liverpool and put Jovanovic, Babel, Kuyt, Maxi, Aurelio, Konchesky and Poulsen up for sale. Had exact same chat with each player, each one responded the same. I reloaded and tried other options to see what would happen and I couldn't seem to generate a different response. Hmm.
Press conferences. Yawn.
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« Reply #36 on: Mon 25 Oct 10 08:09 GMT »
I've had a quick dabble with the demo. Looks quite promising so far on the whole.
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« Reply #37 on: Mon 25 Oct 10 12:46 GMT »
I know I'll still buy it anyway lol but I dont think Ive had a proper single player go for at least the last few versions. Network game only really sad
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« Reply #38 on: Mon 25 Oct 10 12:50 GMT »
I don't have internet at home and i'm a bit concerned this will be full of bugs without the inevitable patches. But likewise will still get it.
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« Reply #39 on: Mon 25 Oct 10 12:54 GMT »
There will be a patch on day 1, as there always is. They never seem to quite get the balance right in generating a realistic number of things like injuries, bookings etc.

I think it was the last one where the out-of-the-box version the injuries were horrendous Scared 3-4 a week sometimes Thumbs Down

Oh yeah I clicked through a few games as Liv, didnt set any tactical instructions, asked assistant manager to pick the team, didn't buy anyone etc etc

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A0

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